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Post by danicalifornia on Apr 3, 2018 14:21:33 GMT -5
Hi all,
How many recorded versions of Sick City are there does anyone know?
Thank you 😊
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Post by Mrs_Toni on Apr 4, 2018 22:39:32 GMT -5
Sick City?
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Post by coldwater on Apr 5, 2018 15:38:46 GMT -5
1) The original as written and recorded by CM.
2) The cover version by Marilyn Manson.
3) Another cover by Ripe with Decay.
Then completely aside, there’s a separate song by Elton John/Bernie Taupin having the same title.
Plus, several other songs, unto their own, with that title.
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Post by coldwater on Apr 5, 2018 15:54:11 GMT -5
For greater detail, there’s a site/App: “Song Meanings”, which is a catalogue-type listing, searchable by Artist or Title.
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Sick City
Apr 9, 2018 2:55:43 GMT -5
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Post by danicalifornia on Apr 9, 2018 2:55:43 GMT -5
1) The original as written and recorded by CM. 2) The cover version by Marilyn Manson. 3) Another cover by Ripe with Decay. Then completely aside, there’s a separate song by Elton John/Bernie Taupin having the same title. Plus, several other songs, unto their own, with that title. Thanks, that’s really helpful info. Is there only one recording of Charlie singing it? I have the version where he starts playing then stops and makes a comment about the sound engineers wanting a happy song, to which they reply that Charlie should just play whatever he feels like playing. I really love the lyrics of that song, I think it’s so true about people not caring about the chaotic side of society if they have a beer and TV. The new version of Karl Marx’s religion as the opiate of the people. |
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Post by coldwater on Apr 30, 2018 18:11:34 GMT -5
1) The original as written and recorded by CM. 2) The cover version by Marilyn Manson. 3) Another cover by Ripe with Decay. Then completely aside, there’s a separate song by Elton John/Bernie Taupin having the same title. Plus, several other songs, unto their own, with that title. Thanks, that’s really helpful info. Is there only one recording of Charlie singing it? I have the version where he starts playing then stops and makes a comment about the sound engineers wanting a happy song, to which they reply that Charlie should just play whatever he feels like playing. I really love the lyrics of that song, I think it’s so true about people not caring about the chaotic side of society if they have a beer and TV. The new version of Karl Marx’s religion as the opiate of the people. I am not that well-versed (!) in his music, so I do not know about the number of versions. Wouldn’t “Lie” (sic?) contain a version...or is that the studio version [presumably edited]? |
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Sick City
May 1, 2018 2:37:09 GMT -5
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Post by danicalifornia on May 1, 2018 2:37:09 GMT -5
Thanks, that’s really helpful info. Is there only one recording of Charlie singing it? I have the version where he starts playing then stops and makes a comment about the sound engineers wanting a happy song, to which they reply that Charlie should just play whatever he feels like playing. I really love the lyrics of that song, I think it’s so true about people not caring about the chaotic side of society if they have a beer and TV. The new version of Karl Marx’s religion as the opiate of the people. I am not that well-versed (!) in his music, so I do not know about the number of versions. Wouldn’t “Lie” (sic?) contain a version...or is that the studio version [presumably edited]? Yeah there’s a version on Lie, it’s a clipped version of the one I have, and much cleaned up. On the original recording, Charlie starts playing, then stops and giggles (this whole session is full of nervous giggles and Charlie making asides about how nervous he is. Not the cocky Charlie bossing the sound engineers around that we’ve heard of. Perhaps that was another session. Or an exaggeration after the fact?!). He then apologises to the engineer and says “oh you want something happy!”. The engineer tells Charlie to play what he wants, says he’s here to jam with him for the next hour and 45 minutes, and encourages Charlie to play uninhabited. Charlie seems pleased and says “what were we talking about? Oh yeah, Sick City” and starts to play, in one take. The Lie version cuts out the banter before the song, and takes a lot of the hiss out of the sound. On the original, the microphone struggles a bit when Charlie hits his stride, but on Lie it’s properly engineered so you can hear just how good Charlie actually sounds vocally. (I can’t deny it - when he hits the crescendo note he really is good). Although it’s technically a studio version, I always think of it as a demo or almost a live version, as it’s clearly one take and there hasn’t been much production. Some of the Lie tracks have multiple instruments and vocalists, and sound more like we except a ‘studio’ version to sound like. |
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Post by coldwater on Jun 29, 2018 22:01:42 GMT -5
petsoundsforum.com/thread/700/bill-scanlan-murphyDani: This thread (above) on a Beach Boys forum provides some interesting details regarding the recording process for CM. He was much more comfortable in a smaller environment, and then had some difficulty with the engineers. There’s also other information about more private recording sessions which took place in Brian’s bedroom studio. If CM was more of an improvisational performer, which some facts appear to indicate, this would/could be an irritant for a producer/engineer simply trying to lay down some tracks for a test. At that time, studio time was charged by the hour and it was very expensive. ***********[Following is the main post on the board....]************ “Not much of a Beach Boys fan. I'm more of a researcher of the Manson case. Murphy was a session player for the Beach Boys and claimed he was very, very close to Dennis Wilson for the last couple of years of his life. He said towards the end, Wilson started to open up about things he knew and claimed he knew what the real motive for the Tate-LaBianca murders were, but was going to save it for his own book, which of course never happened. Among the things he told Murphy is personally introduced Manson to Sharon Tate (Murphy interviewed Charlie and didn't tell him that, but asked if he met Sharon and he said "at Dennis'"). Wilson told him he knew Gary Hinman and Bobby Beausoleil confirmed that. He said Charlie wasn't responsible. Apparently, Wilson and Manson met at a dope dealers house (some say Hinman). The girls hitchhiking was a nonsense story. Wilson's early account of how they met is different from the commonly told story. He said he picked up two of the girls and then later ran into them. He never mentioned then showing up at his house later, or Charlie kissing his feet. He also said one girl was pregnant and the two girls on record of having been picked up had no kids. Murphy was supposed to release a book, but never did. I've tried like crazy to get in touch with him, but I've had no luck. Among other things said. There was a 10 track Manson album recorded and some of the other Beach Boys (Brian and maybe Carl) did session work on it and Dennis did some drums. This is said to have been recorded in their own studio. Wilson gave them the name "The Family" and Melcher WAS serious or at least told them he was going to not only record them (look on YouTube for "Family Jams") but release a documentary with Gregg Jakobson. But problems arose when Melcher (as Charlie implied) tried to push it off on Mike Deasy and it didn't go well, it ended with Deasy trying to stab Charlie with a pitchfork and getting his ass kicked by Bruce Davis. Charlie has hinted that this is what made people mad at Melcher, that he wasn't. That there may be a connection between Nick Grillo and Leno LaBianca. (Charlie claims Grillo threatened to put a mafia hit on him when he stormed into Brother Recordings and demanded Royalties for the 20/20 album). Tex Watson was a dope dealer and that is how he knew Wilson. He met Charlie through Wilson and only ended up with Manson because he burned so many people in deals and that the murders were a result of drug deals that Wilson knew about.“ {attributed to poster abraxas}
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