Post by valleygirl on Jul 26, 2017 23:40:31 GMT -5
Excerpt from a recent interview with Reznor, thanks to ceilodrive.com
It seems Trent still maintains he didn't know....?!
What about something like the fact that you lived and worked in a house where the Manson family killed people? Was that part of the same desire to be subversive?
"No. I had to answer questions about that for ten years. I can tell you the story behind recording The Downward Spiral in the Sharon Tate house" The Los Angeles home where four members of Charles Manson’s cult brutally murdered actress Sharon Tate and four others in 1969. Before its demolition in 1994, Reznor rented the house and used it to record both The Downward Spiral and the Broken EP. He named the studio “Le Pig,” presumably in reference to the fact that one of Tate’s murderers wrote the word “Pig” on the front door of the house in blood. "We were looking for a place to work on the album, and I saw a number of places, and one of them happened to be the house where the Tate murders occurred. But no one told us that."
You can imagine a realtor not wanting to mention that.
"I just didn’t know. That place sits up on a hill overlooking Beverly Hills, with the ocean on one side and downtown in the other direction — it was a cool, tranquil little ranch house with a nice yard. And it was cheaper than the rest of them."
That’s always a clue.
"I remember having dinner with [music booker] Ian Copeland and he asked where I was going to be in L.A., and I mentioned a house on Cielo Drive. He said, “That’s where the Manson murders took place.” I had read Helter SkelterThe true-crime account of the Manson family murders, co-written by prosecutor Vincent Bugliosi. as a kid and was freaked out by it; Ian said he had a copy. So we finished dinner, and I got his copy of the book and turned to the pictures in the middle. I’m thinking, Man it would be fucking crazy if it’s the same house. Then I saw a picture that showed a wooden ladder going up to the loft — I’d just gone up there earlier that day — and I thought, Holy shit, it’s the same place. No part of me thought, That’d be cool!"
People thought your staying there was contrived.
"And it wasn’t. I wasn’t trying to create some manufactured spooky thing. Any shock value to what I was doing was about trying to sneak subversive things to a wide audience. With Marilyn Manson,In 1993, Reznor signed Manson to his Nothing Records label and helped produce Manson’s 1994 album, Portrait of an American Family. He subsequently invited Manson to join Nine Inch Nails on the Self-Destruct tour in support of the Downward Spiral. The 1999 Nine Inch Nails song “Starfuckers, Inc.” is rumored to be about Manson. who I thought was a great artist back then, he knew exactly what he was doing and exactly what would be shocking. Those were very conscious decisions on his part. What I was doing wasn’t the same thing."
Last Edit: Jul 26, 2017 23:43:01 GMT -5 by valleygirl
What is his problem??!! He took the door with him when he moved. It was clearly seen on his business. What???
What makes it clear he knew, for me , is the fact he read Helter Skelter when he was a kid. The address is repeated over and over throughout that book, and the photos of the house etc. I don't know about you, but after i read Helter Skelter there is no way i could mistake that house for any other. Also the address 10050 was imbedded into my memory. I think the encounter with Patti Tate made him feel extremely guilty about it and this is just his way of minimising the shame.
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